Conversation with #dkap_amber
Conversation with #dkap_amber on Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:58:35 AM EST:
(11:00:01 AM) mode (+o dkap) by ChanServ
(08:06:50 PM) The topic for #dkap_amber is: Game as Usual
(08:08:32 PM) mode (+o dkap) by ChanServ
(08:08:45 PM) Cagliostro: ahoyhoy
(08:08:50 PM) dkap: We have no caelin.
(08:09:08 PM) Cagliostro: nor Auricle.
(08:09:29 PM) dkap: Oh?
(08:09:53 PM) Cagliostro: well, at the moment.
(08:10:00 PM) Cagliostro: no Caelin at all, you mean?
(08:10:08 PM) dkap: Opening night, tonight.
(08:11:22 PM) Cagliostro: ah, yes.
(08:11:24 PM) Cagliostro: no caelin.
(08:12:35 PM) dkap: Talked to Eric earlier, we might have Kintani
(08:12:52 PM) dkap: And I saw Tim this past Sunday at the ... memorial.
(08:14:16 PM) Cagliostro: ah.
(08:14:21 PM) Cagliostro: rough time.
(08:14:33 PM) dkap: Indeed.
(08:16:18 PM) Cagliostro: it's got to be weird for you.
(08:18:47 PM) dkap: It ... is.
(08:19:10 PM) Cagliostro: We should get together in meatspace and talk about it sometime soon.
(08:20:07 PM) dkap: I'm for that.
(08:26:49 PM) dkap: Oh https://www.haven.org/haven/wiki/?TiaCultir
(08:30:35 PM) Cagliostro: very heartfelt
(08:30:45 PM) Cagliostro: ...but I can't help but notice there's no room for you in her narrative.
(08:31:23 PM) dkap: Indeed ...
(08:31:38 PM) dkap: 15 years ... ret-conned out of existence.
(08:32:15 PM) Cagliostro: some memory holes are larger than others.
(08:33:38 PM) Cagliostro: on another note, I think your game has a higher body count than any other I've been a part of.
(08:33:39 PM) Cagliostro: ;)
(08:33:53 PM) dkap: And, interestingly enough, I now hear that I'm apparently abusive, and Tia was afraid of me.
(08:34:16 PM) Cagliostro: When we're gaming in the old folks home, we may have to worry about player death more than character death.
(08:34:17 PM) dkap: Interestingly true, on more levels than you think. It's now 4.
(08:34:30 PM) Cagliostro: hm, I think I only know of 3.
(08:34:45 PM) Cagliostro: Well, the alternative interpretation is to think ill of the dead.
(08:35:03 PM) dkap: Rich, Derek, Andrew, and Tia.
(08:35:31 PM) Cagliostro: Derek I don't think I know.
(08:35:43 PM) dkap: Umm ... I believe, before your time.
(08:36:08 PM) Cagliostro: quite possibly. I've only been playing for ten years. ;)
(08:38:44 PM) dkap: I figured the next to go was Mark, (Rhiannon) high stress job, high-blood pressure, and not taking enough care of himself, and his divorce didn't help.
(08:39:18 PM) dkap: You might remember him and his (now ex-)wife, they were the ones throwing the temper-tantrum during the very first run you were at.
(08:39:19 PM) Cagliostro: lots of us could take better care of ourselves.
(08:39:21 PM) dkap: At Arisia.
(08:39:27 PM) Cagliostro: I think perhaps vaguely.
(08:40:23 PM) dkap: Indeed.
(08:41:09 PM) Cagliostro: which was the now-ex-wife?
(08:41:22 PM) dkap: Riki or rikibeth.
(08:41:31 PM) Cagliostro: k
(08:41:40 PM) Cagliostro: familiar but not in a way that lets me place them
(08:41:42 PM) dkap: She never was in the game that I recall, but I could be wrong.
(08:42:13 PM) Cagliostro: everybody comes to Rick's.
(08:43:14 PM) dkap: ?
(08:43:44 PM) Cagliostro: I mean everyone eventually will create a character in this game ;)
(08:43:51 PM) Cagliostro: whether or not they keep playing is a different story...
(08:44:05 PM) dkap: Ahh ... right.
(08:51:37 PM) dkap: Oh ... wait, Riki did play ... *sigh* Now I remember.
(08:51:42 PM) dkap: Talk about memory gaps.
(08:51:43 PM) dkap: *sigh*
(08:52:27 PM) Cagliostro: who did Riki play?
(08:52:58 PM) dkap: One of the redheads.
(08:53:12 PM) Cagliostro: ah. fun for the whole family.
(08:53:21 PM) dkap: Indeed.
(09:00:28 PM) dkap: All right ... I'm going to call the game for lack of players.
(09:02:38 PM) dkap: Unless you want to ask questions, or something ... I'll be around, but listening less exclusively to the channel.
(09:02:43 PM) dkap: If someone shows ...
(09:04:21 PM) Cagliostro: makes sense
(09:04:51 PM) Auricle [~chatzilla@pool-72-79-216-115.spfdma.east.verizon.net] entered the room.
(09:04:51 PM) dkap: I'm going to make some food or something.
(09:05:00 PM) Cagliostro: food is good.
(09:05:01 PM) dkap: Ahh ... I knew there was an invocation in there somewhere.
(09:05:03 PM) dkap: *grin*
(09:05:06 PM) dkap: Greetings Auricle.
(09:05:11 PM) Auricle: OMG, hi!
(09:05:16 PM) Auricle: We're moving.
(09:05:25 PM) Cagliostro: oh, what a pain moving is
(09:05:29 PM) Auricle: A friend gave me boxes at work. I came home, started filling boxes.
(09:05:43 PM) dkap: Oh, do you need more boxes? I've got a whole stack.
(09:05:54 PM) Auricle: I have three boxes of action figures (in their original packaging) and I'm not done with the collection yet!
(09:06:03 PM) Cagliostro: geek. ;)
(09:06:04 PM) Auricle: And I TOTALLY spaced on game.
(09:06:07 PM) dkap: Sounds ... normal for you.
(09:06:16 PM) Cagliostro: (I say this as someone with a Jane Austen action figure on the mantel. But it's not mine.)
(09:06:23 PM) dkap: How many boxes of Veggie Tails and their bits.
(09:06:28 PM) Cagliostro: s'all right, re spacing. I've done it before.
(09:06:37 PM) Auricle: I was on the way to get Greg, and he calls to say he has a ride to the club, and then he says, why are you even driving? Don't you have amber?
(09:06:44 PM) Auricle: I'm all, OMG, amber.
(09:06:47 PM) Auricle: So here I am.
(09:06:53 PM) dkap: Thank you Greg! *grin*
(09:08:02 PM) dkap: So ... when last we left our intrepid heroes ...
(09:08:16 PM) Auricle: I was being adored.
(09:16:42 PM) dkap: On parade, indeed.
(09:17:04 PM) dkap: (Sorry, I had forgotten to put up last week's log.)
(09:19:23 PM) dkap: Rikki was playing a cross-over character from Stormy's campaign.
(09:19:32 PM) Auricle: Ahh.
(09:20:39 PM) dkap: Conversation before you joined us.
(09:20:45 PM) Auricle: Okay
(09:22:24 PM) dkap: Morbid.
(09:22:31 PM) dkap: About dead players.
(09:22:53 PM) Auricle: Oh.
(09:23:03 PM) dkap: I've lost 4 now.
(09:23:12 PM) Auricle: Sadness.
(09:23:20 PM) dkap: And my speculation was that Mark was next, not Tia.
(09:24:09 PM) dkap: With all the stress he was under, his blood pressure,and everything.
(09:24:17 PM) Auricle: Indeed
(09:24:18 PM) dkap: As you see ... morbid.
(09:24:27 PM) Auricle: I agree, morbid.
(09:24:34 PM) Auricle: Apparently your game is dangerous.
(09:25:30 PM) dkap: *grin* Or we are just ... getting old.
(09:26:20 PM) Auricle: I'll go with the dangerous theory. Anyone with as many action figures as I have can't be old.
(09:27:34 PM) dkap: You are one of the young ones.
(09:28:09 PM) dkap: Oh, did you hear from Shanti? She just lost her job.
(09:28:14 PM) Auricle: *clap* Yay!
(09:28:25 PM) Auricle: Er, to being young, not to Shanti losing her job
(09:28:31 PM) Auricle: I did hear about that.
(09:29:02 PM) dkap: Yeah. I've got some feelers out in the Hartford area for her.
(09:30:10 PM) dkap: Ahh ... there we go. Mr Zorg is going to turn up the sound-dampers, so you can talk to him privately while being heaped with cheers on the parade route.
(09:31:13 PM) dkap: He mentions to you that, if you find the parade objectionable, he will wind it down, but he is trying to build up a feeling of loyalty to you.
(09:31:36 PM) Auricle: "To me??"
(09:31:46 PM) Auricle: "It's Deirdre's City. She's King."
(09:33:16 PM) dkap: Zorg: To you and your family. Morale was ... somewhat low. Well ... not morale, but ... the willingness to do anything in your family's defense.
(09:35:11 PM) Auricle: "Well, they are Amberites. But, this does make sense, and everyone seems to like the parade."
(09:35:52 PM) dkap: Zorg: "Oh ... so, you didn't want to stop the parade ... what was it you wanted then?"
(09:36:41 PM) Auricle: Gargoyle: Why am I here again?
(09:40:44 PM) Cagliostro: (questions about your staff, how they were found, etc.)
(09:41:33 PM) dkap: Gargoyle: you were going to investigate Zorg's connection to Flora, and your staff.
(09:43:27 PM) Auricle: (checks her logs -- and the anti-expirment field my Jagers have)
(09:44:04 PM) Auricle: "How long has my staff actually been here?"
(09:45:03 PM) dkap: They were not here when you went Walkabout last time.
(09:45:17 PM) dkap: Personal time line, according to Gargoyle, no more than a week.
(09:45:33 PM) Auricle: nod, is asking Zorg.
(09:46:09 PM) dkap: What words, so I can convey them?
(09:46:31 PM) Auricle: "How long has my staff actually been here?"
(09:47:06 PM) dkap: Zorg: "They have been trickling in over the last several weeks."
(09:48:06 PM) ***Auricle frowns slightly. "HAve there been any problems with them?"
(09:48:10 PM) dkap: Zorg: "Often passed to my staff, to be located."
(09:48:44 PM) dkap: Zorg: "There seems to be an ... animosity, I'd guess, to the Jager. At least, they asked for more and more stringent anti-Jager measures."
(09:49:27 PM) dkap: Zorg: "I've not bothered them directly in their labs, I was told that they were your staff, and were to have a free hand."
(09:49:40 PM) Auricle: "by?"
(09:49:54 PM) dkap: Zorg: "Was that a wrong judgement?"
(09:50:23 PM) dkap: Zorg: "By various members of the Dworkin family."
(09:50:54 PM) Auricle: "No, it's the right judgement."
(09:51:20 PM) Auricle: "I just can't imagine why the Jagers would be causing experiments to destroy themselves just by being present."
(09:51:40 PM) dkap: Zorg: "Was that the problem? They never said."
(09:51:43 PM) Auricle: "Nor why my staff and my Jagers would be at odds. I feel like I'm missing something fundamental."
(09:52:11 PM) dkap: Zorg: "They are _your_ Jager?"
(09:52:19 PM) dkap: Zorg hrms ...
(09:53:34 PM) Auricle: "well, I made them. When walking the Pattern. Why?"
(09:54:39 PM) dkap: Zorg: "I was wondering why they started showing up everywhere."
(09:55:47 PM) Auricle: "Ahh. Well, mystery solved. They're designed to be protectors for, well, here."
(09:59:12 PM) dkap: Zorg: "Are they organized? Shall I fold them into my organization? Or should they remain their own, separate, but parallel organization."
(09:59:47 PM) Auricle: "You have an organization?"
(10:00:31 PM) dkap: Zorg: "Of course ... umm ... how else do you think the city got built, and then defended from the ... umm ... child who attacked?"
(10:01:22 PM) Auricle: "Actually, I knew the Jagers wanted to help with at least demolishing the city....And they obviously helped defend it, too..."
(10:02:06 PM) Auricle: "I hadn't realized. I just thought you were really amazing at getting them to do stuff."
(10:03:39 PM) dkap: Zorg: "Thank you. But no, I worked around them, rather than with them. I hired a few, though."
(10:03:48 PM) dkap: Zorg: "For heavy lifting."
(10:04:42 PM) Auricle: GM: Is Zorg Pattern? Can I tell?
(10:06:10 PM) dkap: Zorg is real, and has tinges of pattern power, but ... not direct pattern in him.
(10:07:21 PM) Auricle: So not likely Amberite.
(10:09:09 PM) dkap: Possibly an Amberite who never walked the pattern, or a Chaosian.
(10:09:17 PM) Auricle: "I hadn't realized you wouldn't be able to control them."
(10:09:46 PM) Auricle: Hmmm. REfresh my own mind, let alone Auricle's--- do we just ask tht kind of thing of people?
(10:10:12 PM) Cagliostro is now known as Jean
(10:10:16 PM) Jean: not and expect an honest answer.
(10:10:23 PM) Jean: but Flora tends to know people's genealogy
(10:10:29 PM) Jean: as would the Dancer's Guild in general, for Chaosians.
(10:11:37 PM) Auricle: K
(10:13:14 PM) Jean: generally, it seems that Amberite heritage is something that either people brag about or deny
(10:13:25 PM) Auricle: "Apparently I'm going to have to take one apart and figure out what's causing the problem."
(10:13:27 PM) Jean: unless, as in Jean's case, the Amberite heritage is secondary to his other heritage ;)
(10:13:56 PM) Auricle: Or, in auricle's case, she has no memory of her Amberite heritage, so puts no sense of self into it.
(10:16:03 PM) dkap: She remembers what it's like to be treasured by the Pattern ... both now in Kolvir, and before in Tir.
(10:16:37 PM) Auricle: She doesn't really consider it being an Amberite, though. That's got all this family and squabbling and stuff.
(10:16:59 PM) dkap: Indeed.
(10:17:32 PM) Auricle: She accepts she's an Amberite b/c she can walk the Pattern, but it's the Pattern, not the Amberite, that's important.
(10:19:47 PM) dkap: Indeed.
(10:21:18 PM) ***Auricle stops walking with the parade and considers the nearby Jager, as if wondering which one to take apart.
(10:23:49 PM) dkap: The Jager doesn't seem bothered by the inspection.
(10:24:35 PM) Auricle: "Oh, that's a problem. How can I study one when they break the lab just by being in it?"
(10:25:02 PM) Jean: "They don't break the lab; they break certain experiments. Use a different lab."
(10:25:18 PM) dkap: Gargoyle opens maps of other locations, not your lab, suitable for vivisection, or disection.
(10:26:31 PM) Auricle: "Excellent."
(10:26:44 PM) Auricle: "Mr. Zorg, thank you."
(10:27:14 PM) ***Auricle gestures to a few Jagers to follow her and heads off to one of the locations Gargoyle marked.
(10:28:32 PM) dkap: Off they go.
(10:28:49 PM) ***Jean follows
(10:29:42 PM) dkap: You arrive at a hospital-like place.
(10:30:57 PM) Auricle: "This looks perfect."
(10:32:01 PM) Auricle: Go inside, look for an operating room.
(10:34:24 PM) dkap: There is one, available. (Several, actually)
(10:35:22 PM) Auricle: Are there people here that I'm just wandering past? Or is it empty?
(10:35:34 PM) dkap: There are people around.
(10:35:43 PM) dkap: But they are ignoring you.
(10:35:59 PM) Auricle: How unusual.
(10:36:22 PM) Auricle: But, better than people shooting at me.
(10:36:26 PM) dkap: Nope, they are dealing with other people, and you have Jager.
(10:36:36 PM) Auricle: I'll use......that operating room there.
(10:36:58 PM) dkap: Right.
(10:39:29 PM) Auricle: look at the JAger. "I need a volunteer."
(10:40:36 PM) dkap: The Jager do a complicated thing that resembles rock-paper-scissors, and one puts himself forward.
(10:41:48 PM) Auricle: "Onto the table, please. And lie down."
(10:42:00 PM) dkap: The Jager does that.
(10:43:27 PM) Auricle: Actually, do I have what I need here in order to vivisect him?
(10:44:14 PM) Jean: aren't you a shapeshifter?
(10:44:36 PM) Auricle: Yeah.
(10:44:41 PM) dkap: Yes, you do. Full surgical kit.
(10:45:26 PM) Auricle: Okay, then, vivisect the Jager.
(10:46:51 PM) dkap: Sure ... instructions on rebuilding and rebooting the brain is on the inside of his skull.
(10:47:46 PM) Auricle: That we knew about.
(10:47:55 PM) dkap: He has redundant systems, many of them ... umm ... not exactly biological.
(10:48:35 PM) Auricle: Well, it is Amber Steampunk GG, so not completely surprising....And from Auricle's perspective, just as fun as a normal vivisect.
(10:50:01 PM) Auricle: What are the systems redundent for?
(10:51:17 PM) dkap: Continuing to work under major damage.
(10:51:26 PM) Auricle: nod
(10:51:32 PM) Auricle: that totally makes sense.
(10:52:11 PM) Auricle: What's the power source? I'm assuming the biological source is, well, generally the same as for most biologicals. What's powering the non-biological stuff?
(10:52:30 PM) dkap: Batteries, and a crankable generator.
(10:52:37 PM) dkap: Including some remote-controls.
(10:52:55 PM) dkap: Batteries are a combination of biologic and mechanical.
(10:53:55 PM) Auricle: "hhmmm."
(10:54:33 PM) Auricle: Gargoyle: Are you capable of using the remote controls?
(10:55:08 PM) Auricle: (OOC: Vivisecting is just not the same without Zach to gross out.)
(10:55:42 PM) Jean: yes, it's tough to gross out us Chaosians. ;)
(10:56:10 PM) dkap: Gargoyle: "Testing."
(10:56:19 PM) dkap: Gargoyle: "Negative"
(10:57:21 PM) Auricle: Quick inventory: Do I HAVE a remote control?
(10:57:51 PM) dkap: Not that you can find.
(10:58:47 PM) Auricle: Okay. There were instructions in the skull, any instructions on the non-biological stuff?
(11:00:07 PM) dkap: Nope.
(11:01:13 PM) ***Auricle is openly frowning.
(11:01:35 PM) Auricle: take apart the remote control to see how it works.
(11:02:32 PM) dkap: It doesn't seem to. As if it was an afterthought that was never completed.
(11:03:31 PM) Auricle: "interesting."
(11:04:09 PM) Auricle: anything obvious or otherwise that would explain Jager-presence stopping experiments?
(11:04:15 PM) dkap: Nope.
(11:04:52 PM) Auricle: put the Jager back together again.
(11:05:48 PM) Auricle: "Jean? Anything magical that I can't sense about the Jagers?"
(11:05:57 PM) dkap: Jean, you don't sense anything.
(11:06:51 PM) Jean: "Not that I can tell."
(11:07:00 PM) Jean: "But weird powers don't normally show up on that sort of thing."
(11:07:17 PM) Auricle: "Well, apparently the Jagers have a weird power."
(11:07:28 PM) Auricle: "But a rather unfortunate one."
(11:07:53 PM) Jean: "I'm not sure it's their power that's weird."
(11:07:58 PM) Jean: "Are they patternish at all?"
(11:08:15 PM) Auricle: GM: I'm assuming, yes, since I made them while walking the Pattern.
(11:08:33 PM) dkap: Yes, they are, but subtly so.
(11:08:56 PM) dkap: Their non-biological wiring, in places, resembles bits of the pattern.
(11:09:41 PM) Auricle: "They are Patternish."
(11:10:13 PM) Jean: "The experiments could be Logrus-ish. Or they could be based on something that is opposite to the Pattern in a different way, or only sorta opposite."
(11:10:31 PM) Jean: "You might try finding an experiment likely to fail and waving Jager parts at it."
(11:11:09 PM) Auricle: "I'd think I'd be able to tell if the experiments were logrus-ish. Unless very subtle. Because it would react poorly to me being around."
(11:11:45 PM) dkap: Gargoyle: "It is inconsistant how long exposure from various of the Jager, in number and in proximity."
(11:12:36 PM) Auricle: Nods at the gargoyle, sorta. "Right, the only pattern in the events being there is no pattern."
(11:12:37 PM) Jean: "How often do the experiments fail with you around? Maybe the Jager are like Caelin, and broadcast the power they have, and you're more subtle-like."
(11:13:00 PM) Jean: "Is there a pattern they -aren't- following?"
(11:13:05 PM) Auricle: "Well, I've had experiments fail, of course, but..."
(11:13:25 PM) Auricle: "Gargoyle? Is this an anti-pattern?"
(11:14:01 PM) Auricle: "What would be the opposite of the lack of pattern to the events?"
(11:14:02 PM) dkap: Gargoyle: A lack of pattern is not an anti-pattern. I would detect such.
(11:17:27 PM) Auricle: "There has to be something causing the problem."
(11:17:54 PM) Auricle: "If it's not in the Jagers, its in the Lab. Or some combination of both."
(11:18:16 PM) dkap: Gargoyle: "Still not enough information at this time."
(11:18:27 PM) Auricle: "Hey, Jagers, why do you guys think the experiments break when you get near them?"
(11:20:01 PM) ***Auricle looks at Jean. "When in doubt, ask the possible source."
(11:20:06 PM) dkap: Jager: Many dings break ven ve near zem.
(11:20:10 PM) ***Jean nods. "Good point."
(11:20:23 PM) dkap: Other Jager: *shrugs*
(11:20:57 PM) Auricle: "Not quite, normally you break things. But you are all just standing here in the room, and nothings breaking. In my lab, though...breakage."
(11:22:31 PM) Auricle: "but I think it has to be related to my staff somehow...after all, we weren't having problems with the labs BEFORE they got here...well, except for the Jagers kidnapping Chef D...."
(11:22:47 PM) ***Auricle pauses and looks around. "Where's Chef D?"
(11:24:38 PM) Auricle: (Okay, I have reached yawning stage, I think I need to go to bed.)
(11:25:21 PM) ***Jean nods
(11:25:47 PM) dkap: Where's Chef D, is a good place to hang.
(11:26:05 PM) Auricle: Okay.
(11:26:13 PM) Auricle: I will try to remember game earlier next week.
(11:26:16 PM) Auricle: Night guys.
(11:26:40 PM) dkap: Good night!
(11:26:40 PM) Auricle left the room (quit: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]).
(11:26:57 PM) Jean left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.).